Gynis

Japan is weird.

Oranj Drank

yoo hoo

Alex, I think someone here just upped the ante. It's gonna take a lot more than body glitter and sad poems for you to retain your title as the King (Queen?) of all things FP EMO now. I think Kibbles just won the saddest, most beautiful award we could give... FP's own CaptainEmo.

Great work guys!

street

Yason! Yason!

rubber glove

weather balloon

OMG If I could AoE moonfire spam, I'd gladly wait 6 years.

Yep. No sense in making a plan of action though until we have something to work with. If they've done it like the other stuff, then our current structure is fine, and those who want to be in the rated PvP team can. If it's not the same thing they've done in the past, then no amount of guessing will really do anything in terms of guild managment. The only thing I can guarantee is that the guild managment style will stay very similar. If you don't like us now, you probably won't like us in the future either.

I think you answered the question here: Guild Rated BGs. Like most of everything else, it'll only get as much government as it absolutely requires, and probably not a good deal more. A few people were left feeling sore with the first Kara group, and then they were told they had everything at their disposal to fix their situation. A good majority of those folks did, and the remaining few who didn't like that Big Brother didn't step in and "enforce" a set of kara signups found other homes where that sort of thing was more a part of guild structure. At the end of the day, most people got to see Kara who wanted to, and those that didn't must not have asked around. I imagine the same will go for Guild rated BGs. There will be a few folks who don't like it, and those folks will be invited to form a rated team, too, if Blizzard makes it possible. If not . . . well, I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. It's a single guild tag, so it will have to operate under a single leadership, we just have to hope that the leadership is creative enough to jump any hurdles that Blizzard infrastructure throws at us. xD

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What we can assume is that people who are good at PVP are good at PVP, and that's about it. They're really two different styles of play, in my opinion. Just because a mage can frost trap some adds, POM pyro blast a rogue down in one shot, doesn't mean that he'll be able to keep his target sheeped in PvE while staying at the top of the damage meter, without pulling agro and wiping the raid. While raid encounters are scripted, so are most of the AB and AVs I've been to. There are random elements of both that require players to pay attention. People who say "I don't have to pay attention in PvE therefore it's a more lackluster skillbase" basically are telling me "I don't put forth the effort in PvE and don't need to because those around me who are willing to pay attention and pull out all their tricks will pick up the slack for me." Those willing to pay attention and do all of the things in their arsenal to beat an encounter, to me, are better, no matter what the AFKing rank 2399 arena PvPer might think during TK. Although, really, this debate between "Who has the bigger E-peen: PvEr or PvPer" will never be solved, especially because anyone who does only one exclusively is pretty much ignoring a big part of the game. There are skill players in both. There are crappy players in both. Luckily, the only crappy PvPer we have in FP is me, and I'm willing to suck it up and try anyway.

Just because you are good at PvP doesn't mean you are good at PvE. Just wanted to make sure someone said that. LAWLAWLAWL this thread is fun. BUT - I'm more interested in seeing a focussed FP team. After all, no matter what we're Pv-ing. . . we need to be /famous doing it.

spinners

That. Was amazing.

Washington

monkey

xD

PvP is alive and well because the players who chose to PvP do so. The only thing that prevents people from PvPing in FP is members losing interest in PvP. But you're right, FP is definitely a different flavor of guild. I'm not sure I'd call us casual exactly. Relaxed, definitely though.

Halloween

I don't think PVP in FP has ever been underground. I think it's alive and well. I just think the interest in it comes in waves. Sometimes, the whole guild goes into a horde killing frenzy, and then there are times when people just really want to farm content for repair bills or raid or whatever. Diversity is definitely the word to use. And while I think that PVP definitely ups your reflexes and gives you a greater understanding of your character, it doesn't make you good at PvE. Especially in a raid environment. A lot of PvE is strategy and execution, where PvP has those elements, the precision required is a lot more lax. Although, in my opinion, if you do either exclusively, you're missing out on an entire aspect of the game and trumping your ability to enjoy the game to its fullest.

It means we have to wait for the building to repop. =/

Who says it hasn't?