I'm out of ideas. Help.

Alright, I need help cause I can't figure it out anymore.

 

I can't not pull agro on Onyxia.

 

I held back, merely default attacked to keep the rage up for thunderclap and demoshout. Aside from Battle shout these were the only 2 abilities I used, and I pulled agro.

 

Next fight, same deal, but with my Quel and shield. And it didn't help that when I resist the fears, agro would snap straight to me. I didn't even target Onxyia when i was using my abilities (so i wouldnt attack), gaining rage sololy from my Anger management ability, and I still got it.

 

Then the last fight, I didn't do hardly anything until the end since I was having to battle with the pizza man, and after 4 executes I pulled agro. I'm not sure if it was getting rebuffed in the fight but I'm almost positive I had Salvation on the entire time too and I was in Battle\Zerker stance, no Def.

 

 

Any ideas on what more I can do to stop all this?

 

I mean I could stand there and do nothing or punch her, but then whats the point of me going

 

/frustrated

stop being so damn uber

Take off the hotpants that say "Dragons ride for free."

use a shittier weapon, this happened to me a while ago when i used to go on raids. I know its like, well wtf am i here for? ive boxed her, you still do a damage, and youre there more or less for whelps and in case of an OH shit we kinda went afk while we were supposed to be healing. GG though, maybe gynis is right though, the hot pants would make a large dragon in heat jump your bones on the spot.

don't be in beserker stance?

don't be in beserker stance?

 

Zerker stance gives me +3% crit, but has Zerker rage which is an anti-fear.

 

Battle stance has no anti-fear and no threat increase.

 

Defensive stances is a huge no-no since I have Defiance which increase threat while in defensive stance.

 

Thunderclap and Demo shout create threat, but nothing compared to revenge or sundar armor. Both get refreshed about every 20-30sec.

 

Phase 1 - Battle stance

Phase 2 - Zerker stance for AoE attack on whelps. I almost never even shoot Onyxia.

Phase 3 - Primarily Zerker for anti-fear, but switch to Battle for thunderclap.

 

 

About the only thing I can think of next, would be put on all my Valor gear and get the claws back out, possibly even back to the grey IF ones. This will kill all my stats, offensive and defensive.

Anyone make this?

 

Black Amnesty  

Binds when equipped  

One-Hand Dagger  

53 - 100 Damage Speed 1.60  

(47.8 damage per second)  

Durability 75 / 75  

Requires Level 60  

Chance on hit: Reduce your threat to the current target making them less likely to attack you.  

 

6x Lava Core

12x Fiery Core

12x Arcanite Bar

1x Blood of the Mountain

4x Dark Iron Bar

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=40775

 

Haha. Nm, arcanite bars.

Someone on our server can make that weapon, I remember the post, but I'm not sure who.

 

Is it possibly the timing of when you are using your abilities? I know that a freaking Renew will pull aggro if you do it at the wrong time. Maybe give the MT time for an extra sunder before you demo shout and thunderclap? I know you said you are mainly auto-attacking but did you use heroic strike at all? I'm pretty sure Mortal Strike is fairly low aggro unless you crit.

 

The way aggro works in WoW is that mobs really hate big numbers. Lots of small numbers they don't mind so much. That's really crazy that you pulled aggro with your Quel, that must have been bad timing. I would say you could try dual weilding if you hadn't said you pulled aggro with your Quel and shield... maybe we can consider that an anomaly? /shrug

Heroic strike isnt even on my action bar. MS (from what I've read) causes no more threat that jsut the damage it causes. I think I might just have to go back to the claws.

That's what I thought about MS, but the crits are huge so the aggro from the damage is ftl >.<

Ya, plus sword spec doesn't help. It procs almost as much as crusader sometimes.

a few threat reducing enchants coming out or exist already... but they just decrease threat by like 1-2%.

 

i really dont know... maybe you could become a combat medic and just bandage ppl! =D

 

on a more serious note... see how it goes with a crappier weapon which blows and makes the game less fun... but ur current dilemma is just as frustrating if not more atm.

Last MC we did I gave Vanin some flash powder so he could vanish when he pulled agro. I'm prety sure it worked too so i'll give you some next raid. Hell i might even cast detect traps on you.

Paranoia! That its! I need that!

I find I need to stop damage every few min, besides the usual "stop for snap aggro" spots. Otherwise, I draw aggro with my Hanzo Sword.

there is always a spot up on the wall with me if you want to shoot your gun/bow. fists are a viable option as well but on the wall the fears don't matter.

there is always a spot up on the wall with me if you want to shoot your gun/bow. fists are a viable option as well but on the wall the fears don't matter.

 

/agree

Hunters have feign death, rogues have feint, priests have fade, mages have armor bonuses/arcane subtlety, warlocks have MD imp spec and armor bonuses. That covers all but 1 class who does DPS during an Ony fight. Warriors just aren't made to NOT pull aggro. As a result, you just have to take it far more carefully than other DPS classes.