Mithrandir

Remember folks, 7:00PM tonight! We should have a fairly good group. Hope to see some of you in TK

Hey folks, Just giving a heads up for a Kael'thas raid which I will be running on Friday August 1st at 7:30PM EST. Last week we tried, and were very successful with some harder bosses so I figure we can try the big boy on Friday. Information on the raid is here: http://www.vindguild.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1747 Rules are generally the same, though I am being a bit more strict with gearing and experience. Additionally, FKP will not be used due to some complaints I have received with it, as well as it not being very effective. Loot will be RTU with the caveats I posted in the above link. If you are interested in going, either get in touch with me in-game, post here, or post in the thread on the vindguild.net forums. Thanks!

But see thats the exact reason the point system exists. Lets say for example, you are a T6 geared rogue who wants the Dragonspine Trophy and nothing else from Gruul's lair. You go on 5-6 Gruul runs and do not loot anything, awaiting the item to drop. Everyone else in the raid, mostly non-raiders and alts, are constantly looting T4 and other items on these raids. Finally, the DST drops on the 7th raid which you are in. With regular RTU, you have to compete for that item against 5-6 other melee based alts and non-raiders who have looted items which are the direct result of you helping them out. With FKP, they took a point hit for each item of T4 and what not they looted, items which to you are trash. Therefore, since you have looted and gained nothing else from Gruul, you have the most points and are able to loot the item without any resistance (and deservingly so). You use the example of me looting the Eye of Mag based upon points in the raid, but what you didn't see is that I have been on (and subsequently led) approximately 15-20 Mag, Gruul, and SSC raids where I essentially did not need anything, and looted next to nothing. The point system was put into place to give those who raid with us constantly a chance to secure items against people who are there for the first time. Anyone is open to gain points themselves and loot items via points, they just have to earn it more then everyone else like any other point system. That being said, I know the FKP system is a bit flawed. It was originally meant to be a way to inhibit a raiding group which would (hopefully) be made up of the same people between FP and vind. However, that never materialized mostly, and it became more of a pain when dealing with pugs who generally never got involved with such. I will take a poll before the raid tonight and see if people give a shit about it, if not, it isnt that big a deal for me at this point.

Thats not at all what we do. We roll on FKP points which anyone can sign up for (if they take the time to sign up for it). FKP isn't guild specific, it is open to anyone who comes on our raids, and there are many FP members with good amounts of points. And even then, we only use FKP for T5 tokens and very specific items which some people might want to save up for. Everything else is RTU... The system was made so if someone wants only one item and came to every raid, they would not loose that item to a pug who was there for the first time.

I am going to be putting together an SSC raid to try to start the Attunement questline with Fathom Lord tomorrow night at 7:30PM EST. As FP and Vind has always been semi-partners with this sort of thing I figured I would post here to try to give some people some heads up and what not. It will be done via FKP, but FKP only applies to T5, meaning all non-T5 tokens will be by RTU rules. http://www.vindguild.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1634 Post either in this thread, and/or post on our forums if you feel like signing up for them! Thanks! Mithrandir Vindictive