Joesf 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Some of the largest engines ever put into cars... EVAR... ranged from the 426ci Hemi, to the 427ci Ford, to the Chrysler 440ci Magnum, to the modern Viper 500ci. The top fuel drag cars typically run 426 Hemi engines which launches them upto 330mph in the 1/4mile. Your modern car has maybe half of that. Anyone slighty into military history remember the World War 2 Sherman tanks that rolled all over Germany. Ya... This gearhead, has taken an ELEVEN-HUNDRED CUBIC INCH engine from a Sherman MFing TANK and put it into a 1970 Ford Mustang. 1100 Cubic Inches. Almost THREE times the size of these other extremely large engines. Granted this stock engine only produced 500hp, but thats with 1050 ft/lbs of torque. STOCK. 5.4 bore x 6.0 stroke. Meant for a tank carrying armor plating. Modifying the engine won't be terribly hard... and besides is a f'in tank engine, its meant to have the sheet kicked out of it. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=273058&d=1170566635 Now it may not look that big with the raw chassis exposed, but on an average car the hood that covers the entire engine, would only come up to the bottom of the valve covers. The Air Intake is at least as high as the top of the car. In the background you can see two pairs of headers. I can only assume these are for the engine since they look almost big enough to stick your arm in. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=273136&d=1170604873 This guy is definately BTP! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthr...ad.php?t=159833 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gynis 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Next investment, paint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornwarrior 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 A new paint job and some stickers would add atleast another 50hp. I feel sorry for the front suspension. Hopefully the engine has a brutal history of killing nuns and orphans during WWII and runs on prisoners of war and baby fetuses. I need to get one of those Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erlin 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 LOL beorn. that thing is sick looking. all that torque, you're gonna need some thick tires Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanore 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 LOL beorn. that thing is sick looking. all that torque, you're gonna need some thick tires Yeah, that would be some amazing torque, however, if the Super Capacitor ever makes it to market, electric cars have the potential to out-torque any combustion engine in existance. Lighter, faster and more powerful, I personally want one of these. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
readyakira 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 damn and I was gonna brag about the new software/hardware for my truck so I can monitor everything the computer is doing, and get 1/4mile times and dyno specs..... So much for that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangmeister 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Jesus christ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hykos 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Hopefully the engine has a brutal history of killing nuns and orphans during WWII and runs on prisoners of war and baby fetuses. I need to get one of those that made my day, Beorn. XD Yeah, that would be some amazing torque, however, if the Super Capacitor ever makes it to market, electric cars have the potential to out-torque any combustion engine in existance. Lighter, faster and more powerful, I personally want one of these. LOL, I was gonna correct you and say that Electric supercars already pwn Internal Combustion, but it seems you already know about the Tesla. =D I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesf 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Wrightspeed - (narrator is ungodly dry) http://www.wrightspeed.com/x1.html Almost the same chassis but gas-engine. Ariel Atom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdkEV-t9jg0 http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/frames.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvilelos 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Show me road worthy electric car that can smoke a Bugatti Veyron. (0-62 in 2.5 seconds, what?) Oh wait, you can't. The Tesla doesn't come remotely close. To say that current electric supercars pwn IC engines isn't accurate. Give it a few years, then they will. As far as a certain company (EESTOR) developing a new type of supercapacitor that will solve all energy storage problems... they have been way too secretive to have a working product, their patent filing looks very suspicious (it looks like a sales flyer)... basically, it looks bogus as hell, and it wouldn't suprise me one bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesf 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 Haha, I'm sure if they wanted to create an electric supercar to the tune of $1.5-$2million it would easily smoke a Veyron. I remember one guy putting it this way in respect to electric cars to current hybrids. You don't goto Detroit for electronics, you goto Silicon Valley. And thats exactly where the Wrightspeed guy came from. A former DEC engineer with Cisco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvilelos 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2007 I'm sure it could smoke a Veyron... and be out of juice in a matter of minutes. The real problem is energy storage, and barring a sudden breakthrough, its a problem that will exist for a long time. If you like that Ariel, you should check out the KTM X-Bow. I think the Ariel might edge it out in the power / weight ratio but it looks badass nontheless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanore 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 Ah yes, but I was originally talking about pure torque...Electrics when not made for tree-hugging suburbanites have the potential to be V-8 killers. Storage is a huge problem, which is why I threw in the super capacitor link. It should also be noted that there isn't one company working on a single solution, there are tons. One example that comes to mind: Lithium gel packs are showing good results in Aussy off-road test racer. Can't remember the link to the site atm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tammy 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 lol thats awesome Joe I have guys that do that crap here all time i.e oputting engine wayyy to big in cars . We dont have as easy access to tank engines but im sure if they could get them they would.My inlaws neighbour out a 350 in a chevette it was a hell of alot of fun on a straight away but scary all at the same time.i'll try to find a pic of it beautiful canary yellow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesf 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 One of the webcomics I read is done by a machinetool typa-guy in Alaska. he also has some of his projects on his website. My favorite two... Doc's 4x4 Corvair The Bowling Ball Mortar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hykos 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 I'm sure it could smoke a Veyron... and be out of juice in a matter of minutes. ROFLMAO you say that in comparison to a car that only gets 2 miles per gallon at full speed. The buggati runs out of gas in about 10 minutes at full trottle dude. =D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanore 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 One of the webcomics I read is done by a machinetool typa-guy in Alaska. he also has some of his projects on his website. My favorite two... Doc's 4x4 Corvair The Bowling Ball Mortar. WTB: Mortar. Have mats and bowling balls EDIT: This thread reminds me how much I miss having these guys in my fair city Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvilelos 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 More like 12 minutes. And show me a convenient way to refuel your electric supercar : P Producing a street viable electric car with the performance of the Veyron or any other current IC supercar isn't feasible unless you minimize weight due to energy storage. Not happening with current fuel cell / battery tech. And considering track cars, how long do you think an F1 car would last with electric power? lawl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hykos 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 More like 12 minutes. And show me a convenient way to refuel your electric supercar : P Producing a street viable electric car with the performance of the Veyron or any other current IC supercar isn't feasible unless you minimize weight due to energy storage. The weight of batteries and a small and light electric motor compared to the weight of a massive 12 cylinder engine, 7 speed transmission, and probably 30 gallons of gasoline. hmmm... I wonder how much of a difference there actually is... Problem with mass produced elec. cars is the amount of space needed for batteries, not neccesarily the weight. The smaller engine/transmission and lack of a fuel kinda makes up for that, but, maybe not all of it, well probably not, but damn close, I bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvilelos 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 Don't forget obscene charging times. It's fine for tooling around town; once we have cars that can be plugged into a wall outlet, no prob, let it sit overnight and you are good to go. Want to go on a road trip? Better plan to have a charging station at a hotel. There is the possibility of using supercaps and charging them with a very high voltage, not so high amperage (to allow the use of typical electrical infrastructure; charging at a low voltage would require a current draw far beyond what current setups are designed for) to reduce charging times dramatically. This hinges on caps with enough capacity to function as batteries, however. I guess you could use both and have the caps charge the batteries while you are driving, but thats more weight being tacked on. I think weight is just as important as size here... you can get creative with size. Gel packs will allow you to put little batteries all over the place, taking up any odd-shaped void available. Weight, until we have some advances in battery chemistry and whatnot, isn't malleable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hykos 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 Don't forget obscene charging times. It's fine for tooling around town; once we have cars that can be plugged into a wall outlet, no prob, let it sit overnight and you are good to go. Want to go on a road trip? Better plan to have a charging station at a hotel. There is the possibility of using supercaps and charging them with a very high voltage, not so high amperage (to allow the use of typical electrical infrastructure; charging at a low voltage would require a current draw far beyond what current setups are designed for) to reduce charging times dramatically. This hinges on caps with enough capacity to function as batteries, however. I guess you could use both and have the caps charge the batteries while you are driving, but thats more weight being tacked on. I think weight is just as important as size here... you can get creative with size. Gel packs will allow you to put little batteries all over the place, taking up any odd-shaped void available. Weight, until we have some advances in battery chemistry and whatnot, isn't malleable. now you're just going way over my head Tech boy... but uhh, as for overnight charging, that's all ready possible. Full charges are like 4 hours, most daily charges probably within an hour. And that’s all fine and dandy for a lot commuters I think, but obviously not for everyone. I don't think the ability to pull in somewhere and "fill up" in a few minutes will ever be possible with battery powered vehicles. Electric cars won't have the mobility and versatility of IC until there's someway of easily and conveniently producing power on board, ala Mr. Fusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvilelos 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2007 As far as overnight charges go, I was under the impression that most hybrids / electrics currently available didn't include the feature to be plugged directly into a wall outlet. I saw a special on discovery where a guy modded his prius to allow it, as well as added battery banks to let the car function with only electric drive at low speeds. Pretty good idea IMO, although far from a performance car xD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
readyakira 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2007 For all you into cars and electric cars a very good movie/docu is "who killed the electric car" Funny thing about electric cars is they have been around since the early 1900's! I personally would like to see them come back. So what if I have to recharge it? I could always keep a gas guzzler around for long hauls. But statisticaly people don't put enough miles on a car to negate the distance you can travel with them. The super cap will be a must if you really research it due to the cost of batteries vs. there life cycle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecthelion 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2007 Performance asside, show me one electric car that has the same soul feeding sound that an IC musclecar/supercar has. IC will loose the performance gap given time, and I could make a persuasive argument about the current cost and eviromental benefits of an Electric car; but IC will never loose that devastating, soul feeding, grandma scaring rumble that makes it way more then a mode of transportation. My Camaro's V8 rumble @ idle or its "Get the fuck out of my way or I will eat your soul" roar @ 6000rpm vs the whine of any servo @ any speed. I may loose the race by 1/2 a car length, but I still win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
readyakira 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2007 LOL good post ect! Oh, I agree there will always be the desire for IC engines. Even the way they feel as you step down on the pedal and feel the canges in the power curve is something that I don't see an electric car being able to replace anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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