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When informed by Washington Post reporter David Broder that his presidency would continue through early January, Bush stared at him quizzically, sighed, and shuffled silently back into the White House.

 

lol, Owned.

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how come your quote of my post says "QUOTE (Memphis @ Nov 5 2008, 10:26 AM)"? Wrong dr00d! I know we all look the same to you people, but gawd.

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m over the amendments. Gay is the new black now nagas.

 

If gays are the new black and now THE MAN, is a black man. Where the white women at?!

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If gays are the new black and now THE MAN, is a black man. Where the white women at?!

going back to Alaska

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Chris Rock said it best. Now black people have no excuses :)

Mencia: Employee of the month bitch! NOW MAKE MA SAMMICH BETTA!!

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If all of the Homos left california, the state would shut down. Bye-bye movie industry. That's kind of sad.

 

But - the word "marriage" is the hot button. The issue isn't "proving" something they already knew, it's somehow securing the same rights between domestic partners as a husband and wife in relation to property, living wills, medical decisions, taxes, and insurance. It's a piece of paper that does more than say you care for your wife/husband. In fact, I'm pretty sure in the eyes of the law, it doesn't really matter if you love the person or not.

What rights come with marriage that don't come with a civil union? I don't know these things, because here in Canada we're down with the gay marriages. 8)

 

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Looking forward to seeing who Obama appoints his Secretary of the Treasury! He has some of the most respected names on Wall Street advising him, supposedly. Keeping them around gives me hope for the economy.

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1. Obama is 1/2 white. I'll contest that that was the half that got elected.

 

2. Prop 8 should have been called 'Penis goes where?'.

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Looking forward to seeing who Obama appoints his Secretary of the Treasury! He has some of the most respected names on Wall Street advising him, supposedly. Keeping them around gives me hope for the economy.

If he's smart he'll try and tap Warren Buffett. Can you imagine the imediate street cred he'd get with the business comunity if that was the case? These people worship the ground that man deficates on.

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Legally, property cannot be gifted to a civil partner. If you give a gift more than 12,000 it must be claimed on a tax return. This is not the case for Married Couples.

 

In the event of a death for a civil partner who dies intestate, property is passed to the next of kin (blood relative) not the civil partner. If one does not exist, the estate goes into Probate. The probate courts are not obligated to recognize the relationship.

 

Civil partners cannot file "Married" on tax returns, meaning they do not get a marriage tax credit afforded to couples.

 

In some states, they are attempting to pass laws requiring couples to be married to adopt. If gay couples cannot marry, they cannot adopt.

 

This is to name a few. I'm sure I can find a complete laundry list, if you'd like.

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If he's smart he'll try and tap Warren Buffett. Can you imagine the imediate street cred he'd get with the business comunity if that was the case? These people worship the ground that man deficates on.

Absolutely - Buffett is one of the guys who is supposedly advising Obama, and if he could actually wrangle him into his cabinet or w/e, Wall Street would be very happy indeed! (And I give the guy a lot of cred myself - He certainly knows how to make money.)

 

I'm sure Obama is trying to tap him, but I doubt Buffett would want the job since he has arguably a much sweeter deal already and definitely doesn't need any padding for his resume. Time will tell!

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Legally, property cannot be gifted to a civil partner. If you give a gift more than 12,000 it must be claimed on a tax return. This is not the case for Married Couples.

That sucks, if you have been living together in a house, then on top of your partner dying you get smacked with a monster tax bill to stay in your home. :( Estate taxes in general are kindof sketchy.

 

Tax credits for spouses, as well as medical insurance and such, I'm not so big a fan of. And I mean spouses in general - I don't like that marriage gets used for one person (traditionally the wife) to quit working and become a dependant when there are no kids involved. That leads to all kinds of unnecessary problems imo - No easy answers though!

 

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LONDON (Reuters) - Democrat Barack Obama won an extraordinary two-year struggle for the White House, beating Republican John McCain and becoming the first black president in U.S. history.

 

Following are quotes from world leaders:

 

YULIA TYMOSHENKO, UKRAINIAN PRIME MINISTER

 

"Your victory is an inspiration for us. That which appeared impossible has become possible."

 

FRANCO FRATTINI, ITALIAN FOREIGN MINISTER

 

"Europe which is celebrating (the victory of) Obama must know that Europe be will be called on to be a producer of security and no longer merely a consumer. I think Obama will rightly call on us to take our responsibilities more seriously."

 

CELSO AMORIM, BRAZILIAN FOREIGN MINISTER

 

"In this case hope has won over prejudice -- this is good for the United States and the world as a whole."

 

GRIGORY KARASIN, RUSSIAN DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER

 

"The news we are receiving on the results of the American presidential election shows that everyone has the right to hope for a freshening of U.S. approaches to all the most complex issues, including foreign policy and therefore relations with the Russian Federation as well."

 

HOSHIYAR ZEBARI, IRAQI FOREIGN MINISTER

 

"I think you will hear a lot of discussion and goals and slogans during the election campaigns. When there is a reality check I think any U.S. president has to look very hard at the facts on the ground."

 

TZIPI LIVNI, ISRAELI FOREIGN MINISTER

 

"Israel expects the close strategic cooperation with the new administration, president and Congress will continue along with the continued strengthening of the special and unshakeable special relationship between the two countries."

 

MOHAMED MAHDI AKEF, LEADER OF THE EGYPTIAN MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, ONE OF THE LARGEST ISLAMIST GROUPS IN THE MIDDLE EAST

 

"We congratulate (Obama) on the confidence of the American people in him and we hope that he will change the policy of the United States toward the Middle East and toward the crimes which are happening in Afghanistan and Somalia, in other words that he adopts a just policy that restores to America its natural position of respect for humankind and democracy."

 

REV, FEDERICO LOMBARDI, POPE BENEDICT'S SPOKESMAN

 

"Believers are praying that God will enlighten him and help him in his great responsibility, which is enormous because of the global importance of the United States...We hope Obama can fulfil the expectations and hopes that many have in him."

 

YOUSAF RAZA GILANI, PAKISTANI PRIME MINISTER

 

"Your election marks a new chapter in the remarkable history of the United States. For long, the ideas of democracy, liberty and freedom espoused by the United States has been a source of inspiration...I hope that under your dynamic leadership, the United States will continue to be a source of global peace and new ideas for humanity."

 

MANMOHAN SINGH, INDIAN PRIME MINISTER

 

"Your extraordinary journey to the White House will inspire people not only in your country but also around the world."

 

ALI AL-SADIG, SUDANESE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESMAN

 

"We don't expect any change through our previous experience with the Democrats ... When it comes to foreign policy there is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats."

 

JAN PETER BALKENENDE, DUTCH PRIME MINISTER

 

"The necessity for cooperation between Europe and the United States is bigger than ever. Only by close transatlantic cooperation can we face the world's challenges."

 

NICOLAS SARKOZY, FRENCH PRESIDENT

 

"With the world in turmoil and doubt, the American people, faithful to the values that have always defined America's identity, have expressed with force their faith in progress and the future. At a time when we must face huge challenges together, your election has raised enormous hope in France, in Europe and beyond."

 

HAMID KARZAI, AFGHAN PRESIDENT

 

"I applaud the American people for their great decision and I hope that this new administration in the United States of America, and the fact of the massive show of concern for human beings and lack of interest in race and color while electing the president, will go a long way in bringing the same values to the rest of world sooner or later."

 

GORDON BROWN, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER

 

"Barack Obama ran an inspirational campaign, energizing politics with his progressive values and his vision for the future. I know Barack Obama and we share many values. We both have determination to show that government can act to help people fairly through these difficult times facing the global economy."

 

MWAI KIBAKI, KENYAN PRESIDENT

 

"We the Kenyan people are immensely proud of your Kenyan roots. Your victory is not only an inspiration to millions of people all over the world, but it has special resonance with us here in Kenya."

 

JOSE MANUEL BARROSO, EUROPEAN COMMISSION PRESIDENT

 

"We need to change the current crisis into a new opportunity. We need a new deal for a new world. I sincerely hope that with the leadership of President Obama, the United States of America will join forces with Europe to drive this new deal. For the benefit of our societies, for the benefit of the world."

 

HU JINTAO, CHINESE PRESIDENT

 

"The Chinese Government and I myself have always attached great importance to China-U.S. relations. In the new historic era, I look forward to working together with you to continuously strengthen dialogue and exchanges between our two countries."

 

ANGELA MERKEL, GERMAN CHANCELLOR

 

"I offer you my heartfelt congratulations on your historic victory in the presidential election.

 

"The world faces significant challenges at the start of your term. I am convinced that Europe and the United States will work closely and in a spirit of mutual trust together to confront new dangers and risks and will seize the opportunities presented by our global world."

 

TARO ASO, JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER

 

"The Japan-U.S. alliance is key to Japanese diplomacy and it is the foundation for peace and stability in the Asia-Pacific region. With President-elect Obama, I will strengthen the Japan-U.S. alliance further and work toward resolving global issues such as the world economy, terror and the environment."

 

KGALEMA MOTLANTHE, SOUTH AFRICAN PRESIDENT

 

"Africa, which today stands proud of your achievements, can only but look forward to a fruitful working relationship with you both at a bilateral and multilateral levels in our endeavor to create a better world for all who live in it."

 

STEPHEN HARPER, CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER

 

"I look forward to meeting with the President-elect so that we can continue to strengthen the special bond that exists between Canada and the United States."

 

KEVIN RUDD, AUSTRALIAN PRIME MINISTER

"Senator Obama's message of hope is not just for America's future, it is also a message of hope for the world as well. A world which is now in many respects fearful for its future."

 

HELEN CLARK, NEW ZEALAND PRIME MINISTER

 

"Senator Obama will be taking office at a critical juncture. There are many pressing challenges facing the international community, including the global financial crisis and global warming. We look forward to working closely with President-elect Obama and his team to address these challenges."

 

SUSILO BAMBANG YUDHOYONO, INDONESIAN PRESIDENT

 

Indonesia especially hopes that the U.S., under new leadership, will stand in the front and take real action to overcome the global financial crisis, especially since the crisis was triggered by the financial conditions in the U.S."

 

GLORIA MACAPAGAL ARROYO, PHILIPPINE PRESIDENT

 

"We welcome his triumph in the same vein that we place the integrity of the US electoral process and the choices made by the American people in high regard. We likewise note the making of history with the election of Senator Obama as the first African-American president of the United States."

 

ALI AGHAMOHAMMADI, CLOSE AIDE TO IRAN'S MOST POWEFUL FIGURE

 

AYATOLLAH ALI KHAMENEI

 

"The president-elect has promised changes in policies. There is a capacity for the improvement of ties between America and Iran if Obama pursues his campaign promises, including not confronting other countries as Bush did in Iraq and Afghanistan, and also concentrating on America's state matters and removing the American people's concerns."

 

SAEB EREKAT, AIDE TO PALESTINIAN PRESIDENT MAHMOUD ABBAS

 

"We hope the president-elect in the United States will stay the course and would continue the U.S. engagement in the peace process without delay. We hope the two-state vision would be transferred from a vision to a realistic track immediately."

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If he's smart he'll try and tap Warren Buffett. Can you imagine the imediate street cred he'd get with the business comunity if that was the case? These people worship the ground that man deficates on.

you don't think he'd have a bit of conflict of interest in that role? He could make billions for himself based on his own decisions in office.

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Now to watch the 'change' happen, which I will believe to come down to business as normal. I really don't get how so many people put their hopes into politicians.

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you don't think he'd have a bit of conflict of interest in that role? He could make billions for himself based on his own decisions in office.

True of any rich guy, right?

 

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Obama has asked Rahm Emanuel to be Chief of Staff.

 

Names being kicked around for Treasury Secretary are: Timothy Geithner, Paul Volcker, Larry Summers, Jon Corzine and more (story here http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/11/05/t...-secretary.html )

 

John Kerry is said to be pushing his name in for Secretary of State.

 

 

I expect the Treasury Secretary to be pretty conservative to cement Obama's promise to bring bi-partisanship but what do I know?

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I totally watched the Obama speech on youtube. That costs money you know! Igues the america injection that I had on my last night in ATL kinda worked. /america!

 

But seriously, what is 8? =(

There were amendents to state constitutions in Arizona, Californina and Florida that would define marriage as between a man and a woman only. It passed in all three states.

 

I need not get into how it'll be redecided in a few years. Thank God.

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John Kerry in any position of power makes my blood boil.

 

Also Obama has been talking to Colin Powell after Colin publicly showed his support for obama. See how that goes~

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John Kerry in any position of power makes my blood boil.

I was never a big Kerry fan, but honestly, to this day I don't understand all the hate. 'Unimpressive' is about the worst word I can personally think of to describe him.

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Kerry's kind of a douche. He'll go down in history as the Dem's Bob Dole.

 

Atrus, all I learned from that pic is that we need more prez with beards. It's been too long. And btw, nice Gob sig.

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